Curse

dagrdagaz · May 22, 2010, 10:53 PM // 22:53

Under the bridge, on the bridge, i could care less.

And, i was merely expressing my dissatisfaction that my mesmer build is now worse then better.

So, i'll go cry a river for under that bridge now

Faye Aeris · May 22, 2010, 11:03 PM // 23:03

You complain about recharge times increasing. Read fast casting.

Cuilan · May 23, 2010, 12:14 AM // 00:14

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Originally Posted by dagrdagaz

Great, Spiritual Pain is ruined

Well, at least for how i used it.

It's good against those pesky Stone Summit minion masters if you're in a caster group.

ilr · May 23, 2010, 12:15 AM // 00:15

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Originally Posted by Faye Aeris

You complain about recharge times increasing. Read fast casting.

That's the problem though, you now need atleast 11 in FC just to counteract the nerfs to those energy recovery spells that were already weaksauce to begin with ever since they were nerfed years ago when Monks were "abusing" them in PvP. So figure it out: ...they've been nerfed twice b/c other classes that already had better energy management options were the ones abusing them. It's needlessly punitive to the mesmer's specific use of those skills and basically just 'Boons' them since there's much better options to exploit like Lyssa's aura, BloodRit heroes or BiP support, and exploiting the signets in another class's primary attribute as was already mentioned in this thread.

NeferJackal · May 23, 2010, 01:05 AM // 01:05

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Originally Posted by G4ymBoy

My guild grouped for FoW (NM) last night with 5 mesmers, a BiP and two rits. We all had different elites and all had arcane mimicry >.> having just two people with panic (let alone the possible 5 we had) was enough to pretty much stop enemies in their tracks, they barely got anything off. So even in NM Panic is the defining mesmer skill imo.

(but i like being a sig spammer more)

EDIT: At the above poster, take some tissues and go back under your bridge, you are an affront to the eyes of the fabulous mesmers.

Interesting note about Panic, so the more you can stack it, the more brutal it becomes it seems. I do wonder what could synergize well with Panic.

maxxfury · May 23, 2010, 01:53 AM // 01:53

soo...

or 1...8 seconds, target foe and all nearby foes are hexed with Panic. When a foe hexed with Panic successfully uses a skill, all other nearby foes are interrupted.

stacking wut? it already hexes everyone nearby..and with a seconds agro management you have them balled into that range. unless your bad..

Smarty · May 23, 2010, 02:13 AM // 02:13

Currently using Mind Wrack, Panic, Eburn, Empathy, Unnatural Signet, Pdrain, Drain Enchantment and EVAS, 12-10-8 dom-FC-insp + runes, and thoroughly enjoying it. Energy's v tight if there's no enchantments to be drained, though, so I think it needs more work.

I've experimented with a multi-attribute Symbolic Keystone build but I think Lishy's Symbolic SoS is a better idea; it definitely didn't feel as powerful as the Panic one. Gwen's running a similar build to the Panic one but with PI as elite.

Really, really pleased with the update; so far I haven't missed FCing secondary profession skills at all.

Willow O Whisper · May 23, 2010, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by Smarty

Currently using Mind Wrack, Panic, Esurge, Empathy, Unnatural Signet, Pdrain, Drain Enchantment and EVAS, 12-10-8 dom-FC-insp + runes, and thoroughly enjoying it. Energy's v tight if there's no enchantments to be drained, though, so I think it needs more work.

I've experimented with a multi-attribute Symbolic Keystone build but I think Lishy's Symbolic SoS is a better idea; it definitely didn't feel as powerful as the Panic one. Gwen's running a similar build to the Panic one but with PI as elite.

Really, really pleased with the update; so far I haven't missed FCing secondary profession skills at all.

W00T how did you manage to hack the client? xD
Gotta be hard to keep two elites in one bar

maxxfury · May 23, 2010, 02:55 AM // 02:55

Its likely Burn, not Surge..(yes im implying its a non-intentional typo :P)

been running a keystone sig bar for tests and its pretty lulzy..(but much room for improvement btw :P fun and pretty viable tho not top tier imo.)
FC & dom
Keystone Sig
Symbolic celerity
Wastrels worry
Unnatural sig
Cry of frustration
Sig of clumsiness
optional
optional

Keystone>Unnatural sig>cry of frustration* is a nice** combo. And the Aoe is quite a giggle too from each sig cast. A little agro management to ball up a bit never uhrt btw

Optionals been monk sigs + soh, sin sigs ect

So far, panic, psy insta, mindwrack, keystone(+symba celerity) esurge, inept and chaos storm are pretty ok from first impressions

prob missed some of the fun ones

*insert interrupt sig here
** fun =/= great necessarily btw

Quail Stomp · May 23, 2010, 08:28 AM // 08:28

I think the update is just fine for pve but it does feel op in pvp. Im used to rupting and shutdown while the rest of the team deals the dmg. I dont need much help from the team for dmg now. To easy to solo other casters, monks got to hate this update in pvp.

Smarty · May 23, 2010, 10:33 AM // 10:33

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Originally Posted by Willow O Whisper

W00T how did you manage to hack the client? xD
Gotta be hard to keep two elites in one bar

/doh burn not surge, indeedy. I blame the supercharged mes boss with an insane FC-recharge-boosted Esurge which caught my party unawares for that typo!

NeferJackal · May 23, 2010, 11:47 AM // 11:47

Hmm, leaves me thinking.

16 illusion
13 fast casting

Web of disruption
Arcane conundrum
Ineptitude (E)
Clumsiness
Wandering eye
Signet of clumsiness
Mirror of disenchantment
Res

Useful to have an untyped interupt in Web and it recharges in 10 with high FC.
Arcane conundrum both serves to amputate casters and as e management.
Cover AC with the 3 following damage hexes and the signet, and watch the physicals blow themselves apart.
Mirror is just too good not to take along.

-Makai- · May 23, 2010, 01:36 PM // 13:36

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Originally Posted by dagrdagaz

Great, Spiritual Pain is ruined

I'm rather enjoying the new Spiritual Pain. It's very cheap, quick to cast and has a good recharge rate. It's essentially the new E-Burn.

Willow O Whisper · May 23, 2010, 03:03 PM // 15:03

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Originally Posted by Smarty

/doh burn not surge, indeedy. I blame the supercharged mes boss with an insane FC-recharge-boosted Esurge which caught my party unawares for that typo!

The one outside Beetletun...... Geez... She's a killer on hm